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Post by Proditor on Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:23 am

You have to view Slaughterhouse 5 as a metaphor in itself. Vonnegut is simply introducing a philosophy (The Tralfamadorian one) through the story, and basically giving an example to the importance of an easy-going nature. Think about it, had Billy Pilgrim fought against the idea that he was time traveling the experience would be horrible for him and all those he survived to talk to. But he didn't because he never has, never will, and never can. That's why I like writers like Vonnegut and directors like Cronenberg, their books and movies aren't just plots and entertainment, they're pieces of art to be interpreted and thought about. In the same way that you view a painting can you watch a Cronenberg movie, but today's books and movies are all about escapism, because the culture is so accelerated, and because people would rather sit and empty their minds for half an hour than watch something stimulating for the sole purpose of that sentient activity afterwords.

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Post by Buddha on Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:14 am

You may be right. I just assumed he had gone insane from the war and that's where the aliens come in.

Overall I went into it without being familiar with vonnegut's work at all and it surprised me completely.

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Re: Noteworthy Books (Hdeuce-d)

Post by Proditor on Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:22 am

Most people read Slaughterhouse first and are blown away. I read The Sirens Of Titan first and if you ever read it I think you'll find it's a lot more feel-good, and is more a book about revelations and epiphanies than philosophy. And there is that fact the the first bit of Slaughterhouse is terrible the first time around you read it. It's engrossing afterwords, but the first time? Terrible.
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Post by Buddha on Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:46 am

The first part was the only part that made sense to me I think. I will read another vonnegut book at some point but i don't know which one or when.

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Re: Noteworthy Books (Hdeuce-d)

Post by Proditor on Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:12 am

Read Bluebeard. You'll like it. It's down to earth and just so wonderful.
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Post by Buddha on Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:45 am

"Bluebeard" (French: La Barbe bleue) is a French literary folktale written by Charles Perrault and is one of eight tales by the author first published by Barbin in Paris in January 1697 in Histoires ou Contes du temps passé. The tale tells the story of a violent nobleman in the habit of murdering his wives and the attempts of one wife to avoid the fate of her predecessors. Gilles de Rais, a 15th-century artistocrat and prolific serial killer, has been suggested as the source for the character of Bluebeard as has Conomor the Accursed, an early Breton king. "The White Dove," "Mister Fox" and "Fitcher's Bird" are tales similar to "Bluebeard".

I'll keep it in mind.

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Post by Krissy.Marie on Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:25 pm

I always though Slaughterhouse Five is one of those books that everyone should read in order to function in society. Like, you cannot go outside without knowing it.

But society proves me wrong and instead, you can't go outside without searching for sparkling vampires.

If you're reading Vonnegut, I would suggest Cat's Cradle. Probably my favorite of his works. But, then again, I retract that statement. Everyone else I've spoken to doesn't like it as much as I.

I agree with Proditior, then, Bluebeard is a good read. It's not as out-there as anything else Vonnegut has...

Anyone read A Man Without a Country by him?

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Post by Proditor on Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:20 am

Buddha wrote:I'll keep it in mind.

I meant the Vonnegut book, which is named as a parallel to the actual legend of Bluebeard. But by all means, read the original too.

I once went into a public library looking for a Tom Robbins book, I believe Jitterbug Perfume, and when I asked if they had any in the building the librarian scoffed at me and told me to read something more recent, better, and she notioned towards a shelf of Twilight and Harry Potter books. I had half a mind to commit arson.
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Re: Noteworthy Books (Hdeuce-d)

Post by crazyassmetalhead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:11 am

damn i shoulda posted here sooner...


most of my list has already been posted lol. (1984, animal farm, a clockwork orange, slaughterhouse 5, lord of the flies......all that)

big vonnegut fan btw, reading "timequake" right now.

what's not on here.....

fear and loathing in las vegas - hunter s. thompson
the hells angels -hunter s. thompson
Heart of Darkness -joseh conrad (novella but whatevers)
a wrinkle in time -madeline l'engle (or something likle that)
lies my teacher told me -(i forget and i lent my copy to some girl i haven't even talked to for a couple of months)

some sorta survival guide, like "sas survival guide" or "air force survival guide" or some shit like that.....just good to know, nice thing to have in a collection next to classic/neoclassic literature.

fuck when i start buying books it's gonna be a pretty fucked up assortment.

o ya....

johnny the homicidal maniac ---the dude that created invader zim (forgot his name, most of that graphic novel is on google books, it was so good i'm gonna buy all of his shit eventually, kinda hard to find in libraries for obvious reasons)

the watchmen ---i don't remember



fuck can't think of more....

i'll get back to you all when i do.
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Re: Noteworthy Books (Hdeuce-d)

Post by Proditor on Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:18 am

A wrinkle in time? I read that book as a child. I didn't really enjoy it much, and I remember coming back to it later on to see if I found it more attractive. Nope.
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Post by crazyassmetalhead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:26 am

haven't read it since like 2nd grade, i remember liking it then.....

not many children's books about time travel that are worth a shit.

i should read it again though.
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Post by Proditor on Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:45 am

It's written very mechanically if I remember correctly. That's what put me off it. And it got too ridiculous. But who am I to say that, I like Cronenberg.
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Post by crazyassmetalhead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:53 am

well i remember reading another book by here, some sorta half assed murder mystery on a cruise and it was bad for that very reason....too descriptive about a bunch of who gives a shit information....

which reminds me:

without remorse- tom clancy
the hunt for red october-tom clancy


he's anally descriptive about cool shit.
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Post by Hdeuce on Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:39 am

1916
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1949
1979
Al by Morgan Llewellyn great historical fiction about the Irish Civil Way

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Post by crazyassmetalhead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:47 pm

that sounds interesting.
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Re: Noteworthy Books (Hdeuce-d)

Post by Cat Soup on Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:34 am

A Child Called it by Dave Pelzer

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Post by CriminalAnarchist on Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:37 am

ahh that book made me cry!!!

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Post by Hdeuce on Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:16 pm

ooh oooh ooh books that made you cry for 500 alex.


Answer: This book named after a rouge colored pteridophyte, was a heartwarming tale about a boy and his two coonhounds.

Question : What is, Where the Red Fern Grows by Wilson Rawls, Alex.

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Post by CriminalAnarchist on Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:17 pm

i have read that book i got a little teary, why did you give the answer then the question?

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Post by Hdeuce on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:44 pm

because thats how jeopardy works.

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Post by CriminalAnarchist on Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:33 am

...i don't watch jeopardy

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Post by Proditor on Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:06 am

Not many people do but most are familiar with how it works.
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Post by CriminalAnarchist on Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:27 am

i seriously don't.

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